clossed system

"minds eye"

It seems that religions, in their various modern associative groupings
such as "Christian", "Muslim", etc., have a commonality of paradigm
that, like the works of Heidegger and Bob Dylan, seem to be so obvious
and yet, telling in their unlike counterparts in the scientific
attempts to encapsulate nature as a system.

I am referring to a system that is closed, in the sense that humans
are not a subset of the whole. Closed to human involvement with the
Universe. The part where we come in. The "we" in "This is how we
understand the world to be." There is, to my knowledge, no religion,
no spirituality, no concept of a totality of existence in which humans
and their various trivial needs, wants and dining habits are not
somehow included.

In science, we have various paradigms, much like our other current
thread about String Theory*, that have nothing to do with explaining
humans or the "why" of what is. The math of the universe doesn't care
about whether Quality exists. The thermodynamics that explain
astronomical phenomena, independently confirmed by repeated
observation and prediction, do not care about the moral compass.

I am interested to hear your thoughts on the possibility of a 'closed'
spiritual system, one that can exist independently of humans. Or at
least independently of local UHF television programming.